Q:Is abortion ok in cases of ectopic pregnancies? Why are you avoiding the question?
Q:Comparing aborted fetuses (no memories, no personalities, no attachments, no dreams) to Holocaust victims (who had all of those things, were fully formed human beings) is incredibly disrespectful and shameful. Comparing a human being with ambitions and feelings to a clump of tissue that looks like a chunk of vomit in a petri dish is not only profoundly illogical, but heartless and belittling to those victims. You do not represent this generation, and your work does nothing but harm.
About how you think this (9 weeks, from this website) looks like vomit, and not a human being? And apparently thinking looking like vomit means its okay to kill something no matter what it is, just based on what it looks like? (I thought about making a joke about me being ugly here, and couldn’t get it to sound the way I wanted. Plus I’m not.)
I think I’ll just say yet again, that we compare the abortion to the Holocaust sometimes not because the victims were good or bad, worthy or unworthy, old or young, but because they were human beings who were killed en masse.
There are three prerequisites for being a human being that is worthy of dignity and, you know, not being killed. Distinct, alive, and human. (Distinct and alive could be a bird, distinct and human could be a corpse, human and alive could be your fingernail.) But a fetus, which has its own DNA, processes wastes and can hear and dream, and is of the same species as both its parents because that’s how nature works, is all three. (Death penalty advocates might add innocent, but I’ve never heard of a fetus committing one of the Seven Deadlies, and you did not specify that Holocaust victims were innocent. So.) Holocaust victims were also all three. And they were massacred.
So our comparison simply says “look at all these millions of human beings being killed because someone decided to say they weren’t human! All humans deserve rights, not just the ones you like! Killing is wrong and terrible!” And you looked at that and saw “heartless”.
I think the reason for that is that it would be uncomfortable, wouldn’t it, to have something you advocate be compared to one of the worst acts in the modern world - perhaps in all of history? Yeah, that would suck for me too. That’s why I don’t go in for the Holocaust analogy. Not because it’s inaccurate. But because I’m pandering to your feelings. I’m actually trying to be sensitive to the fact that you don’t like to be called a murderer.
Well, I don’t like to be called disrespectful or heartless, but when you said it, I looked at it and thought about it logically and wrote out a reply. I’m asking you to look at what you said and what I said and think about it the same way. Maybe do some research. Read up on it more. Try to start friendlier dialogues. Wonder if maybe the Holocaust analogy is more sound than you think. Not perfect in every particular - that’s what makes it an analogy. But sound.
You made me angry, which is what I think you intended, so good job. But I’m not going to respond to you angrily. Because I don’t want you to be my enemy. I want you to be my ally. Not because I want to be right, but because the right already exists, and I want you to see the truth and join with me in my attempt to stop the idea that millions of deaths mean nothing. That’s why we say “we are the pro-life generation”, you know. Not because every single one of us is pro-life. We’re not talking statistics. We’re talking hope.
We say that in hope that this will be the generation that will win people like you and me and R and G and everyone else over to the truth. And in the hope that this will be the generation that will stop the slaughter. That will see that trying to do that isn’t harmful, it’s good. It’s a rally cry. And we’re not trying to leave you out of it, we’re inviting you in, so you don’t have to get defensive when analogies like that are made.
Think about it.
A pro-life group is calling on taxpayer-funded PBS to cancel its plans to air a pro-abortion movie on Labor Day that “humanizes” late-term abortionists who kill unborn children in the third-trimester.
“After Tiller” profiles Warren Hern, Shelley Sella, LeRoy Carhart, and Susan Robinson, some of the last third-trimester abortionists left in the United States.
On September 1, PBS will be showing the pro-abortion propaganda film “After Tiller” that seeks to sanitize the practice of killing unborn children after viability in late-term abortions. The station also provides resources for people to host an at-home viewing party.
American Life League is demanding that the taxpayer-funded PBS cancel its Labor Day showing of “After Tiller.”
“‘After Tiller’ is nothing short of pure propaganda intended to demonize the entire pro-life movement and drum up support for late-term abortion,” said Judie Brown, president of American Life League. “Why are pro-life tax dollars being used to paint a sympathetic picture of abortionists who stab babies in the base of their skulls just moments before they are born? Where is the sympathy for the babies, whose brains are being sucked out by vacuum machines by these abortionists?”
Brown says “After Tiller” was funded in large part by pro-abortion groups and lists Planned Parenthood and NARAL as primary outreach partners.
According to Media Impact Partners, the film’s production team’s goals include changing the view of Americans in favor of late-term abortion providers and against legislation that bans late-term abortions. The filmmakers also hope that medical students will request abortion training be made available in their curricula.
“Would PBS ever run a puff piece that was funded by the KKK in order to sanitize and normalize racism?” asked Brown. “Shame on PBS! This has no business airing on a publicly funded network.”
The taxpayer-funded television station prefers to describe the movie this way:
Martha Shane and Lana Wilson’s After Tiller is a deeply humanizing and probing portrait of the only four doctors in the United States still openly performing third-trimester abortions in the wake of the 2009 assassination of Dr. George Tiller in Wichita, Kansas—and in the face of intense protest from abortion opponents.
It is also an examination of the desperate reasons women seek late abortions. Rather than offering solutions, After Tiller presents the complexities of these women’s difficult decisions and the compassion and ethical dilemmas of the doctors and staff who fear for their own lives as they treat their patients.
The PBS web site even includes a quote from the liberal Washington Post extolling the virtues of the movie.
“After Tiller does viewers the great service of providing light where there’s usually only heat, giving a human face and heart to what previously might have been an abstract issue or quickly scanned news item.”
Promoting abortions after viability as a great service? Your taxpayer dollars at work.
ACTION: Contact PBS here.